Born in Memphis, Tennessee, on March 15, 1938, Charles, from an early age, was immersed in that city’s rich musical life and was exposed to jazz.
In 1956, Charles moved to Los Angeles and graduated from the University of Southern California. During this period, Charles played in Gerald Wilson’s big band and formed his own group that included Billy Higgins, Don Cherry, Bobby Hutcherson, Scott LaFaro and Terry Trotter. Charles joined the last cello edition of the Chico Hamilton quintet in 1960, playing alto saxophone and flute. Charles's musical identity and gift for melody quickly emerged. His originals were fresh, distinctive, appealing and pushed the envelope.
In 1962, Chico overhauled his group, bringing in Hungarian guitarist Gabor Szabo. Charles and Gabor developed an uncanny empathy and instantly identifiable sound. That group made four stunning albums over the next two years, full of outstanding Lloyd originals.
Released in November 1965, on the Columbia label, 'Of Course, Of Course' was recorded in May 1964 and March 1965, after Charles had left the Hamilton fold, so these sessions were a welcome reunion for Gabor Szabo and him. The recording group was completed by another highly empathetic team, Ron Carter and Tony Williams. Bringing two of the most creative pairings in jazz together makes for one hell of a quartet.
When 'Of Course, Of Course' was originally released, the quartet was best described by Charles:
"I'm always striving for that moment when the music is really happening; by this I mean complete involvement by everybody. When I surround myself with Gabor, Tony and Ron, those moments come more easily because we all draw so well from each other. It happens in the playing. We don't talk much about our roles in the ensemble - we speak best through our instruments, which are like extensions of ourselves."
In 2007, Mosaic Records, who made its name releasing comprehensive multi-disc box sets of jazz musicians, released 'Of Course, Of Course' as a single CD on their short-lived, Mosaic Singles series. The idea behind the series was to release historically valuable LPs that don't fit into a box-set concept. For this CD, the album was newly remixed from the original four-track tapes and includes three bonus tracks approved by Charles Lloyd. "East Of The Sun" is an extra tune from the album sessions. "Island Blues" and "Sun Dance" come from a later session with Szabo, Albert Stinson and Pete LaRoca, with Robbie Robertson of The Band added on guitar on the last tune. This was the first CD release of one of the most neglected masterpieces in an era of masterpieces, and now is again out of print.
Tracklist:
01 "Of Course, Of Course"
02 "The Song My Lady Sings"
03 "The Best Thing for You"
04 "The Things We Did Last Summer"
05 "Apex"
06 "One for Joan"
07 "Goin' to Memphis"
08 "Voice in the Night"
09 "Third Floor Richard"
10 "East of the Sun (and West of the Moon)"
11 "Island Blues"
12 "Sun Dance"
Charles Lloyd – tenor saxophone and flute
Gábor Szabó – guitar
Ron Carter – bass (tracks 1-3, 5-10)
Tony Williams – drums (tracks 1-3, 5-10)
Albert Stinson – bass (tracks 11-12)
Pete LaRoca – drums (tracks 11-12)
Robbie Robertson – second guitar (track 12)
For the freeload, tell us about albums you really like, that were panned by critics and by fans of the group/artist alike.



I've always been a huge fan of Elton John's "Blue Moves," but nobody else seems to like it.
ReplyDeleteI'll have to ponder a while longer on the freeload question; most that spring to mind were either divisive records that drew polarized reviews, or records that got lackluster reviews without actually being pas of the record.
ReplyDeleteI must compliment you again on today's record. The ensemble around Lloyd is adventurous and subtle, Williams' s drumwork is a breathtaking as is Davis's on bass.
If I remember correctly, pretty much all of Janis Joplin's pre-Pearl work got panned by the critics, for various reasons. Kozmic Blues (my favourite) was a wrong turn in many minds, her reputation as an electrifying live performer basically ruled the roost. Pearl was wildly popular critically and commercially, but I think it was (along with the BB Mainstream album) not her best work, limited sample size of course...
ReplyDeleteHell, when Exile on Main Street was released, Rolling Stone mag ran 2 critiques, one calling it the greatest rock record ever recorded, and the other claiming it to be the death of the genre.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I still like the Fleetwood Mac/Bob Welch era, even though it obviously paled talent wise to the original outfit and sales wise to the Nicks genre.
Ah, the nitwits at Rolling Stone magazine.
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The Doors 'Soft Parade' - critics dislike it (mainly from the horns & strings) and fans usually rank it lowest of the Morrison releases but as they say I love it.
ReplyDeleteHa, I just named it in the last thread - I don't think there were too many kind words when Yes' Drama came out, and some folks really couldn't get over the Buggles thing, but it's a really good album that I love dearly...
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ReplyDeleteThe Stones’ ‘Goats Head Soup’ gets a bad rap, but has a few of my favorite Stones songs on it.
Paul McCartney’s ‘Ram’ which no-one liked when it was released. To me it’s a really good Pop record. I also have a sentimental attachment to it. When my daughters were around 6 and 8, they loved ‘Ram’. They knew all the words and used to sing along and dance to it. Listening to them sing "Monkberry Moon Delight” was a scream!
GHS suffers from coming after that great album run of Beggars to Exile but taken in isolation it sounds fine (the production didn't help). Ram was a definite uptick on Paul's (deliberate) low key debut but the weight of expectations make it difficult to rate it objectively.
DeleteUnfortunately, GHS also has "Angie" which makes me scream. And not in a good way.
DeleteThis was easy to react to, as one of my favorite bands released studio album after studio album that got no love from critics and not too much from fans: the Grateful Dead. I think the studio albums between "American Beauty" and "In The Dark" have lots to recommend them, but that wasn't the consensus for a long time.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I picked up the John Lennon album "Rock and Roll" not too long after it came out, and really liked most of it (yes, some of the Spector production was too much). IIRC, critics weren't ready for a revival, and had legitimate issues to mention with the history of the recording sessions. In the end, though, I thought it was a lot of fun and good music.
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"Their Satanic Majesties Request" has always been a favorite of mine since the year it was released. All the rock critics have slagged it continually for the last nearly 60 years, but they can go screw themselves. Respectfully, of course.
ReplyDeleteWhat brings it down (to me) is the long version of Sing this altogether & Gomper - replace them with We love you and Dandelion & it hits harder - On with the show!
DeleteNeal - Can I get you a glass of ice water?
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DeleteBTW Babs, Gabor Szabo is one of my favorite jazz artists of all time. Thank you for posting this.
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Not positive, but I think that both Tonight's The Night & On The Beach by Neil Young were widely panned when they came out, I could be wrong. These are 2 of my favorite Neil Young albums and I think opinions about them have changed over the years. I listen to them more frequently than any other Neil Young albums.
ReplyDeleteAnd I also agree with pmac about Bob Welch era Fleetwood Mac, Mystery To Me is by far my favorite Fleetwood Mac album and it's still in rotation on my phone so I hear songs from it on my walks. Thanks Babs
Both of Uncle Neil albums you mentioned were originally panned by critics, but I don't think by fans.
ReplyDeleteReal NY fans never pan, but occasionally sigh...
DeleteAlice Cooper's (the band) debut, "Pretties For You," never gets any respect as the unique slice of avant-psych it is. "Easy Action" should be better regarded too. It's too bad Vincent's horror schtick came to overshadow some great albums they made between '69-'71
ReplyDeletePretties For You was an excellent album! Easy Action was a lesser follow-up, and kind of set the course for those that followed.
DeleteBob Seger's Back in 72 didn't get much love, and I think Bob disowned it. I always liked it.
ReplyDeleteI was just reading on another forum how Eric Clapton's "No Reason to Cry" was a career low point with most commenters agreeing. But I always liked its quirky mosaic of one-off songs that all seem like they're looking for a better album to belong to. "Hello Old Friend" is infectiously cheerful. And like "Of Course, Of Course" it includes some guitar work by Robbie Robertson as well as some other Band members.
ReplyDeleteThanks for this Charles Lloyd album Babs, looking forward to listen to it. As for your question... Perhaps that Howlin' Wolf's New Album?! I've learned to appreciate some tracks of it over the years ;-)
ReplyDeleteGenesis' "We Can´t Dance" (I LOVE "Driving the last spike" and I'me amazed that "Fading Lighs" is the last recording song by the group). Also, Neil Young's "Trans" I love that record, don't know why...
ReplyDeleteAhhhh! The critics... One that was also poorly received by the fans, Steppenwolf "At Your Birthday Party", still listening, now and then, smiling.
ReplyDeleteHere's a "fuck you" critics, from the fans, as they filled stadiums to see Grand Funk Railroad. Their first album is so-so... but it was one of many discoveries in the late 60s that kept us taking chances, fun times, though I can add the majority of albums we bought, we didn't listen more than once... as new releases came, week after week.
Take care, Babs.
The one that springs to mind for me is Joni's The Hissing of Summer Lawns, which I adored aged 17 (even wrote a seven page review of it for ZigZag magazine which they turned down on grounds that it would take up their entire review section) and still think is her best album, but was derided in the US. Not now.
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